The sound of many thunders

I saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him were 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of mighty ocean waves or the rolling of loud thunder. It was like the sound of many harpists playing together.

This great choir sang a wonderful new song in front of the throne of God and before the four living beings and the twenty-four elders. No one could learn this song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. They have kept themselves as pure as virgins, following the Lamb wherever he goes. They have been purchased from among the people on the earth as a special offering to God and to the Lamb. They have told no lies; they are without blame.

And I saw another angel flying through the sky, carrying the eternal good news to proclaim to the people who belong to this world—to every nation, tribe, language, and people. “Fear God,” he shouted. “Give glory to him. For the time has come when he will sit as judge. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and all the springs of water.”

http://biblehub.com/nlt/revelation/14.htm

This is all written in metaphors. A parable about life in another universe. The lamb isn’t literally a lamb, nor are the 144,000 a set number. Only god and his son decide who have the placing.

The Analogies:

It is unlikely that the sound is literal but ocean waves at high tide do sound like many thunders on hitting the berm. It’s a good analogy because ocean surf on reaching the shore folds over and traps air in the wave. On the berm the piled sand thrown up by previous waves, the compressed air comes out of the water like a bomb going off. And it is in a “vocal chamber” when doing so.

An intriguing idea is that we might get some feedback in that feedback about the sound of harps in those days and perhaps why they might have been soothing instruments, perhaps making melodies like the Tibetan medicine bowls.

Or do I mean the antitheses?

They are called a choir. Is that because there was no such word as orchestra -or was it all song and just sounded like cellos or bass guitars?

Who or what are the four living beings?

And how are they distinguished from the 24 elders?

Is it just a description of the creatures or were they not creatures but representatives of another dimension?

Many translations use the term “creatures” and the term creature means a “created” animal other translations use the term animal or beast:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they were singing as a new hymn of praise before the throne and before The Four Beasts

Now we are back to the 144,000 again. They are not literally virgins, even though some may have been, as are all angels in heaven virgins. And it actually says: “AS virgins” not “literally virgins”. The lamb has purchased us all, even perhaps the satanic sons of god too?

It is for god to say. But no man can measure the value of the sacrifice of this particular lamb, can he?

These 144,000 are not liars. But all men are liars. So they are not men or are not men at the time in the prophecy. If 24 elders represent a skyful of wisdom or a day of wisdom (24 hours of sunlight or right ascension etc..) then does 144,000 represent wisdom from 6000 such days?

If it is days of right ascension; 6000 years of human history?

People chosen from all time to rule over all nations, tribes and peoples?

Well, not to rule but to teach and intercede. Messengers… Angels?

But who do they proclaim the good news to?

“proclaim to the people who belong to this world—to every nation, tribe, language, and people. “Fear God,” he shouted.”

Not to the dead?

Will they come back to their time or a future time?

We are allowing all impossibilities here because all things are possible in this prophecy, even the unthinkable such as for example my own salvation. For Jesus told his followers ALL things are possible and to Keep asking and you WILL receive.

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So now we come to my part in this:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.sci.weather/h-xLrT2sbQA

What have I got to say for myself?

Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and all the springs of water and do it now. Ask him for guidance on the matter and make it your life’s work to find out more.

At the very, very least you will be happier than you are now.

Go on!

What are you waiting for?

The Revelation was written for YOU!!

 

 

How America lost the war

Believe it or not, there is one of those badly narrated US propaganda commercials about superior air-power in Viet-Nam during the Vietnam/US war. Such cobblers is fish-food for the dolts who used to inhabit televisionland’s aquaria before the Internet came along and showed the rest of us how the world works.

 

It is the usual propaganda format with considerable US “side”; you know the sort of thing, with the narration written in SHOUTEE! FOR! EMPHASIS! in case the culprits watching forget whose side they are on. (Or were.)

 

It provoked me to respond and some  weeks later grew into this mould of passionfruit:

 

 

 

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saburu sakai

 

Yesterday 20:32

 

 

 

U gotta be kidding.

 

The US airpower carried the day in 72 because they were FINALLY allowed to fight without the stupid rules that allowed migs to shoot first before they could respond.

 

I’ve known many pilots who flew in nam, and they kicked serious keyster in air combat, though the NVAF pilots were very good. Your fathers did fight us, and fight well they did, but they did not win.

 

It was the American left, in the guise of the Democratic party mainly, and the leftwing US news media that won that war for you, not your fathers, though I say that with respect as I respect all who fight for their country, and fight well they did.

 

 

 

The Democrats allowed the South to fall after we withdrew, but Nixon allowed the US airpower to fight in 72, and it was the North who came to the table and gave in…..at least until the Democrats in the US congress could allow their communist allies to win by cutting off all military aid to the South. You guys finally won, but lets not forget the real reasons why.

 

 

 

This program is totally correct, I remember it happening as I was in high school, and I’ve known many of the pilots who participated thru the years. May 10 was a hard fight, but it was a victory. That doesn’t detract from the determination, skill or courage of the NVAF who came up against long odds. That did take some guts.</quote>

 

 

 

In case you are unfamiliar with the god forsaken political situation that was the marque of that abysmal disgrace, you might care to look up confessions of an idiocracy.

 

<quote=wikipedia>when the My Lai Massacre reports started to break, Westmoreland resisted pressure from the incoming Nixon administration for a cover-up,[citation needed] and pressed for a full and impartial investigation by Lieutenant General William R. Peers. However, a few days after the tragedy, he had praised the same involved unit on the “outstanding job”</quote>

 

 

 

That’s where GW found the quote for his praise of in the incummberance that assisted the demise of the Untidy State of America’s third seaport:

 

“Yor doin a heckuva job Brownie.”

 

 

 

But studying the comment that moved me to post on here I can see how the average US redneck would willingly vote for another chimpanzee if the chance came up.

 

There isn’t a lot of hope for a planet ruled by corporate greed is there.